Joe Rogan and Jonathan Haidt Discuss Google Gemini and 'Structural Stupidity'

Joe Rogan posted a 3-hour-long interview with Elon Musk today. I haven’t watched all of it yet but already there are some highlights worth sharing. For instance, here’s Rogan suggesting that Trump’s cabinet is like nothing American has seen in a long time. People always saw Trump as a disrupter of the status quo but now it feels like every person he’s got in his cabinet are disrupters as well. This makes for interesting times.





Of course DOGE is probably the biggest disrupter so far in this term and was a major topic of the conversation. 

The brunt of the hours-long interview focused on DOGE, Musk’s chainsaw wielding department that is focused on reducing the government’s size and spending. Speaking with Rogan, Musk said that DOGE is still funding ventures that “appear to be legitimate.”

But, Musk said, a lot of the funds he saw were not. He criticized USAID, the federal government’s primary foreign assistance agency that had 90 percent of its contracts cut this week, and argued some of the projects were widely ineffective…

Addressing concerns that DOGE staffers could be privy to sensitive information across the government that requires security clearance, Musk said that the staffers are all vetted and receive the security clearances necessary to work.

“Anyone from DOGE has to go through the same vetting process that those federal employees went through,” Musk said, before adding, “But I mean, obviously the vast numbers of Social Security numbers have leaked onto the internet. People have hacked the government systems multiple times.”





Musk brought up a story he said he’d been told by Sen. Collins about $12 billion for submarines.

Here’s Musk describing how NGO’s are a nightmare and how George Soros was a genius at setting up NGOs to attract government funds.

At one point the discussion turned to the legacy media and Musk described them as being “just like puppets in a puppet show.”

Both Musk and Rogan are also fans of Scott Jennings on CNN.





One more for now. Here’s there discussion of the disappointing Epstein information drop.

There’s so much more here. They talk about memecoins, sexbots, Social Security as a Ponzi scheme and they have fun chatting with Musk’s sassy, unhinged version of Grok. Here’s the full interview.


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