A mask-clad demonstrator speaks with a police officer at the rally in Brighton, which resulted in multiple arrests

Sussex Police has threatened a women right’s group founder with a hate crime arrest after a rally two months ago where her group was attacked by pro-trans activists.

The force told mother-of-four Kellie-Jay Keen an allegation made about her that she used ‘words or behaviour to stir up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation’ was now being investigated.

In an extraordinary phone call released by Standing For Women founder Kellie-Jay, one officer said she could be arrested if she did not attend a ‘voluntary’ interview.

The turn of events seems particularly usual given the same police force had previously investigated menacing messages sent against her before the Brighton rally.

They included many branding Ms Keen – who is also known as Posie Parker – a TERF and urging people to ‘Fight her by any means you see fit’.

Then at the Let Women Speak event on September 18 officers arrested two people after masked pro-trans campaigners clashed with rally attendees.

It prompted JK Rowling to tweet: ‘I see the Be Kind brigade are once more hiding behind their black masks, throwing smoke bombs, screaming ‘scum’ at women speaking up for their sex-based rights and howling abuse at lesbians for not doing d***.’

Last night Ms Keen revealed Sussex Police had threatened her with arrest at her home by the Wiltshire force, calling it today a ‘most pernicious war on women’.

A mask-clad demonstrator speaks with a police officer at the rally in Brighton, which resulted in multiple arrests

A mask-clad demonstrator speaks with a police officer at the rally in Brighton, which resulted in multiple arrests

A mask-clad demonstrator speaks with a police officer at the rally in Brighton, which resulted in multiple arrests

Kellie-Jay Keen, who founded women's rights group Standing For Women, recorded call

Kellie-Jay Keen, who founded women's rights group Standing For Women, recorded call

Kellie-Jay Keen, who founded women’s rights group Standing For Women, recorded call

She said she would not be attending the ‘voluntary’ interview.

In the phone call conversation released online the Sussex officer told her: ‘Somebody has made an allegation against you about a hate crime.

‘We do need to speak to you about that matter as part of our investigation.

‘We do need to do is get you to come down to Brighton ideally so we can have a voluntary interview.’

A protester wearing sunglasses and covering their face is carried away by two police officers in Brighton in September at the rally

A protester wearing sunglasses and covering their face is carried away by two police officers in Brighton in September at the rally

A protester wearing sunglasses and covering their face is carried away by two police officers in Brighton in September at the rally

A second person is dragged away by police officers during the clash between rival groups in Brighton at the rally in September

A second person is dragged away by police officers during the clash between rival groups in Brighton at the rally in September

A second person is dragged away by police officers during the clash between rival groups in Brighton at the rally in September

Harry Potter author JK Rowling, who has faced death threats from trans zealots, tweeted about the incident

Harry Potter author JK Rowling, who has faced death threats from trans zealots, tweeted about the incident

Sussex Police warn campaigner of arrest in ‘voluntary interview’ phone call 

SP: I am just calling you today, it’s about something that happened back in September. I believe you came to Brighton is September for a protest.

KJK: Yes, well a rally, but yes.

SP: Somebody has made an allegation against you about a hate crime. We do need to speak to you about that matter as part of our investigation. We do need to do is get you to come down to Brighton ideally so we can have a voluntary interview.

KJK: When you say hate crimes, specifically what hate crime would it be? I think to be a hate crime, there has to be a crime. So what is the hate attached to?

SP: The crime is use of words or behaviour to stir up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation. It’s gonna be a voluntary interview so you can give your side of the story as well. We’re not putting anything against you, you can bring a solicitor with you if you like. It’s just so we can bottom out your side of what’s gone on. We can discuss what allegations have been made against you as well. We then can look into it a bit further to see if a crime has actually occurred.

KJK: Before you invite me in have you looked at the evidence to see if there is any merit into it?

SP: We have, which is why we are inviting you in to see your side of things.

KJK: You said it’s voluntary, so what does voluntary mean in this instance?

SP: Essentially we are asking you to come down to Brighton, it’s going to be an interview where essentially it’s a little bit more relaxed, at any point you can end the interview if you like, you can bring a solicitor with you. If you don’t attend then we will potentially be looking at getting Wiltshire Police to come and arrest you so they can come and interview you themselves.

KJK: And you’re sure this is a hate crime based on sexual orientation.

SP: That’s what we are looking at the moment yes.

KJK: You’re absolutely positive before I waste my time coming to see you that you have substantial evidence that would point to me actually committing a hate crime.

SP: That’s why we are inviting you down yes.

KJK: OK, just so you know, I have recorded this call

SP: That’s absolutely fine.

Ms Keen then presses them on what exactly the allegation was that had been made about her.

The police caller replies: ‘The crime is use of words or behaviour to stir up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation. It’s gonna be a voluntary interview so you can give your side of the story as well.

‘We’re not putting anything against you, you can bring a solicitor with you if you like. It’s just so we can bottom out your side of what’s gone on. We can discuss what allegations have been made against you as well. We then can look into it a bit further to see if a crime has actually occurred.’

But when the officer is asked exactly how voluntary the interview is, the reply discloses it is perhaps less free than suggested.

They tell Ms Keen: ‘Essentially we are asking you to come down to Brighton, it’s going to be an interview where essentially it’s a little bit more relaxed, at any point you can end the interview if you like, you can bring a solicitor with you.

‘If you don’t attend then we will potentially be looking at getting Wiltshire Police to come and arrest you so they can come and interview you themselves.’

Sussex Police has found itself at the centre of a series of controversies regarding gender and women’s rights.

It was savaged in September after it defended a legally male transgender paedophile by declaring it would not ‘tolerate any hateful comments about gender’.

And it previously unveiled plans for a system where criminals can be recorded as no-gender or other identities.

The rally at the centre of this latest controversy was disrupted by protesters from the Reclaim Pride Brighton group, who vowed to ‘bring flags and noisemakers’ while advised to ‘cover their faces’.

It led to a clash between pro-trans and women’s rights supporters, with pictures showing police dragging two people away from the scene.

A line of police officers had to separate the rival groups, with many wearing black masks.

Police made two arrests during the clashes after smoke bombs were let off in the crowds.

Ms Keen founded the group Standing For Women which campaigns for sex based rights and protections of the word woman.

Earlier this year one of the movement’s supporters was ‘manhandled’ by a gang of masked trans activists.

She was assaulted during a counter-protest by the Manchester Trans Rise Up (MTRU) movement next to the city’s statue of Emmeline Pankhurst in St Peter’s Square in May.

The trans activists arrived to disrupt SFW’s speaking event in front of the statue as part of an event which said it aimed to reclaim ‘a part of Manchester for women’s voices’.

MailOnline contacted Sussex Police regarding the phone call made to Ms Keen and the investigation but did not receive a comment prior to publication. 

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